Wednesday, November 14, 2012

McCain, Romney Chugging Bitters, Whine Cocktail

Bad losers on display: Romney tells donors he lost because Obama promised free stuff to blacks, Latinos, students, and women (contraceptives!).

And nasty John McCain, still upset that Obama beat him in '08, attacks UN Ambassador Susan Rice just to keep the '12 campaign alive.

What a pair of losing losers who earned their losses and validated what poor leaders they'd have been as President.

Oh - - and there was Paul Ryan's side of sour urban grapes, too.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

And let's not forget college tuition forgiveness!

Isn't that what politicians do?

Promising free stuff is a great way to get votes. It's the socialistic way.

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

And let's not forget college tuition forgiveness!

Sounds like a great idea!

I think, however, you meant college LOAN forgiveness. Tuition forgiveness would be just free state colleges, which as I said, is a great idea and we should get working on that right away.

Anonymous said...

Free stuff to .. taxpayers. Free stuff like roads, bridges and airwaves. Parks, bike trails and public safety. The novelty!

Anonymous said...

Obama won the election with 30% of the votes of eligible voters. You can dance around in celebration over this but it does make you look rather childish. But then, this is how Madison Liberals normally look.

Anonymous said...

I stand correcetd zombie. It was loan forgiveness.

Can I get mortgage forgiveness from the President? I've worked hard and paid my taxes. You would think I've earned some vote sympathy compared to a young college grad and some who are still in school who voted for this concept...

Free state colleges? We have too many useless degree programs and over-educated unproductive and unemployable college grads already.

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

Obama won the election with 30% of the votes of eligible voters. You can dance around in celebration over this but it does make you look rather childish. But then, this is how Madison Liberals normally look.

Which means, of course, that Romney obtained EVEN FEWER votes.

You're not really making a coherent argument here. If Obama is made somehow illegitimate by that factoid, Romney is even more so?

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

Can I get mortgage forgiveness from the President?

Well, that was one of the ideas to combat the mortgage industry crash, but the conservatives in Congress quashed the idea. So blaming liberals because you feel butthurt about it seems poorly aimed. Besides, the student loans are originated by the Feds now, while your mortgage likely is not. So you would need to talk to your bank, not the President.

Of course, you ignore much of the debate and facts around the student loan forgiveness issue; to take advantage of it, students need to meet certain requirements. If they are, indeed, 'working hard and paying taxes" it's likely they don't get it just waved away. Heck, when I had student loans, there were certain conditions where I could have had payments deferred for some amount of time.

Post-secondary education is available for free in many countries. It's not as useless as you seem to think. And American has made college free for veterans for a couple of generations now.

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

As is typical, the talking points about the student loan forgiveness differ from reality:

automatically clears the remaining debt of anyone who has made regular payments on their federal student loans for a minimum of twenty years.

So it's not the 'free stuff'. if you've paid on it for 20 years, it's hardly free.

I do agree on one thing though; better that student loans weren't necessary AT ALL. I would like to see post-secondary education tuition be free. Grad school can arguably be exempted.

So-called "useless degrees" can be managed, and I can't imagine it would be more difficult than managing the Gordian Knot of financial aid that is the current situation.

Heck, Why spend a billion dollars on some new fighter jet that the Pentagon doesn't want and doesn't work anyway? If that money is going to be spent, a so-called frivolous degree is at least as good a way to do it.

Max B said...

Free stuff to .. corporations, developers, the one-percenters and other non-taxpayers. Free stuff like roads, bridges, airports, airwaves and the internet. A well-educated workforce, tax-free loans, tax incentives, TIF districts, a functioning communications system, an electrical grid, police and fire protection, a legal system that enforces contracts, a monetary system backed by the strength of the U.S, government, a military that protects U.S. overseas investment (a military that sometimes invades other countries to protect American companies!). For Wal-mart, a food stamp and Medicaid social safety net so that the Waltons can live large off the backs of their workers. For Butch Johnson and other beneficiaries of Operation Money Hand-out at Wisconsin Development Corporation: 'free' loans that won't be tracked and therefore never need to be paid back.

Makes student loan forgiveness--even mortgage loan forgiveness--pale in comparison, doesn't it?

Anonymous said...

Well then, if the left wants loan forgiveness or free public universities let's do it!
But please add a check box to the 1040 or 1040 A form that asks, "Check this box if you wish to pay an additional tax as a percentage of your gross income for the expressed purpose of secondary education loan forgiveness and free public university systems."
Donate as much as you want. Base the financial operation on the popularity of contributions.
Come to think of it, why wait for the government to do it for you.
Just write the check and mail it in annually.

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

But please add a check box to the 1040 or 1040 A form that asks,

Just as soon as the same checkbox is added for taxes that go to the Pentagon.

Anonymous said...

Weren't the Bush tax cuts Bush's bribe to get a second term?

Romney can't understand any motivation other than money.

Raven said...

Was there ever such a pair
For chugging bitters in despair,
Growling curses of disdain,
Or howling madly in their pain,
Waving scribbled protest signs,
And raving babbled whimp'ring whines,
As this live Pinky and the Brain
That we call "Romney and McCain."