Yes, this is an excellent map which shows how little of the regions watershed will be affected. Note that the outline of the ore body barely touches some minor wetlands, or better described as areas with poor drainage. It would be quite easy to mitigate any effects on this small of an area. The exception, of course would be the Tyler Forks River itself, which a narrow part of the ore body under lies. This is also easily mitigated with a buffer zone.
well, you know things are really goin' to shit when I start reading names I know in the JS BTdubs, a guy I strongly strongly suspect of having provided serious grease to the sand mine "wheels" early on does this whisper campaign business about how Popple and others who oppose the mines are just socially mal-adjusted conspiracy nuts (that's the stock smear for people who go against the grain up here. it works pretty well on German-Norwegian types over-concerned with group acceptance and being seen as being "NICE". Keeps the herd inline thru subtle low-level-shunning behaviors. Kind of like sanctions placed by the US as a warning to an erring country. the implication is, stop or we go all out), So they're labeled as chronic harassers of local gov't, busybody retired teachers and (this is a quote) "you know how they are, control freaks and when they retire and have no one to boss around they stick their ignorant noses in where they doesn't belong" and that's just the warm-up. But that's the way it goes. In a community the size of CF etc, where the "engaged" and "powerful" come from a VERY small group of folks, it's pretty easy for a few people to influence behind the scenes, and CF is very socially iron-clad, Once the "ruling class" feel assailed they close ranks in a fat hurry. These small town kings and queens are being played in a big way by Halliburton types,or I actually suspect a lot of them (especially the moron-greedy pissant farmers who are selling out the rest of us so they can feel "rich" for a decade or two before they shuffle off) so some Texas oilman makes them feel important for 5 minutes for the first time in their flannel-clad lives, and they decide "who gives a frac, this farm is a fail, my son drives truck for Wal-mart, and I'll be dead before it all goes to hell around here"
also this
http://bit.ly/yIeC3Y wtf a lawsuit and more mines (and more and more) and another plant in Augusta? (Amish and Mennonites around there, not really litigious types yanno - so I hope they like suckin' dust) Like I say - It's goin' fast. And the big boys say there's not enough "certainty". There's plenty of certainty all right.
Anon- Please take a closer look at the map. To start, you've overlooked Bull Gus Creek, which lies within an Iron County area leased for mine waste. Given your comments, it is apparent that you need a better understanding of hydrology in addition to the mining process itself to help you comprehend the impact of this project to our precious water resources, let alone any of the other environmental and econonic impacts to the region.
Easily mitigated with a bufer zone? How would you propose to do that?
Yes, this is an excellent map which shows how little of the regions watershed will be affected. Note that the outline of the ore body barely touches some minor wetlands, or better described as areas with poor drainage. It would be quite easy to mitigate any effects on this small of an area. The exception, of course would be the Tyler Forks River itself, which a narrow part of the ore body under lies. This is also easily mitigated with a buffer zone.
ReplyDeleteOutstanding map. Thanks for posting this.
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ReplyDeletewell, you know things are really goin' to shit when I start reading names I know in the JS
BTdubs, a guy I strongly strongly suspect of having provided serious grease to the sand mine "wheels" early on does this whisper campaign business about how Popple and others who oppose the mines are just socially mal-adjusted conspiracy nuts (that's the stock smear for people who go against the grain up here. it works pretty well on German-Norwegian types over-concerned with group acceptance and being seen as being "NICE". Keeps the herd inline thru subtle low-level-shunning behaviors. Kind of like sanctions placed by the US as a warning to an erring country. the implication is, stop or we go all out), So they're labeled as chronic harassers of local gov't, busybody retired teachers and (this is a quote) "you know how they are, control freaks and when they retire and have no one to boss around they stick their ignorant noses in where they doesn't belong" and that's just the warm-up. But that's the way it goes.
In a community the size of CF etc, where the "engaged" and "powerful" come from a VERY small group of folks, it's pretty easy for a few people to influence behind the scenes, and CF is very socially iron-clad, Once the "ruling class" feel assailed they close ranks in a fat hurry. These small town kings and queens are being played in a big way by Halliburton types,or I actually suspect a lot of them (especially the moron-greedy pissant farmers who are selling out the rest of us so they can feel "rich" for a decade or two before they shuffle off) so some Texas oilman makes them feel important for 5 minutes for the first time in their flannel-clad lives, and they decide "who gives a frac, this farm is a fail, my son drives truck for Wal-mart, and I'll be dead before it all goes to hell around here"
also this
http://bit.ly/yIeC3Y wtf a lawsuit and more mines (and more and more) and another plant in Augusta? (Amish and Mennonites around there, not really litigious types yanno - so I hope they like suckin' dust)
Like I say - It's goin' fast.
And the big boys say there's not enough "certainty". There's plenty of certainty all right.
To Anon: You know that water does move?
ReplyDeleteAnon- Please take a closer look at the map. To start, you've overlooked Bull Gus Creek, which lies within an Iron County area leased for mine waste. Given your comments, it is apparent that you need a better understanding of hydrology in addition to the mining process itself to help you comprehend the impact of this project to our precious water resources, let alone any of the other environmental and econonic impacts to the region.
ReplyDeleteEasily mitigated with a bufer zone? How would you propose to do that?