tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post5574821002063874954..comments2023-10-08T04:12:46.273-05:00Comments on The Political Environment: Proven False Claim By Walker Featured In National Recall StoryJames Rowenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203270946492159686noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-28275915705187579792012-03-06T14:10:15.647-06:002012-03-06T14:10:15.647-06:00Kirk Steele - Governor Walker is looking out for t...Kirk Steele - Governor Walker is looking out for the STATE OF WISCONSIN, not the employees of the State of Wisconsin. <br /><br />How many of us in the private sector (blue-collar, non-union) get a say in who our company provided insurer will be? NONE that is how many! How many of that same group get their employers to pay for their health care or pension. NONE again.<br /><br />Why don't you asked teachers in Canada about their pension or heathcare and see how their pay stacks up (or better yet post some facts).<br /><br />Wisconsin falls about right in the middle of the national average for teacher pay. <br />http://www.teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state<br /><br />So instead of bashing the Governor, why don't you people come up with a way to save the State from going bankrupt and don't forget you NEED TO MAKE EVERONE HAPPY in the process.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-87867247130122154912012-03-01T16:45:40.287-06:002012-03-01T16:45:40.287-06:00Ultimately, all of you are subject to my agenda. Y...Ultimately, all of you are subject to my agenda. You are poor, I am wealthy. I will continue to oppress and eventually control the 99% Scott Walker is my puppet. David KochAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-43656948916950225522012-03-01T13:48:13.630-06:002012-03-01T13:48:13.630-06:00Anonymous - I believe in leadership - the Governor...Anonymous - I believe in leadership - the Governor has looked out for himself and his friends at the cost of many state professional employee's pay checks. Teachers in Wisconsin are poorly paid in the first place versus what they would get paid in Canada. We think that the people who teach our children are worth a decent wage and benefits. Your pointless nastiness demeans you.Kirk Steelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11465320213995115156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-19644470908848003872012-03-01T09:02:53.055-06:002012-03-01T09:02:53.055-06:00Please see the last page.
http://www.weac.org/LUC...Please see the last page.<br /><br />http://www.weac.org/LUC/newsletters/October%20Lakewood%20Lookout.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-1511146552695438142012-02-29T15:41:55.420-06:002012-02-29T15:41:55.420-06:00Ted Bistrup, cry me a river.
I contribute to my h...Ted Bistrup, cry me a river.<br /><br />I contribute to my health insurance, I don't get a pension and I work 12 months a year.<br /><br />Let's say Teachers work 40 weeks a year (probably less with all the vacation days, but whatever) that would mean that to work the equilalent hours that a 40 hour a week person would work during the course of a year, a teacher would need to put in a 52 hour work week (some might, but the VAST MAJORITY don't). That doesn't even to take into consideration the "Prep Periods" teachers get during the work day. I have worked in 3 different school districts (not as a teacher) and teachers typically do not use prep periods to do actual work (some do, most don't, especially after they have been teaching for many years). The last district I worked in, the Teachers had 2 prep periods and lunch (lunch is typically a period), so they only taught 5 classes during a normal 8 period day. Now it may be argued that the prep period may be no different from work hours for non-public sector works, but ONLY IF they are used for actual school work.(I knew one teacher that would go for a run during his lunch hour and then eat lunch during one of his prep periods)(I knew other teachers that would sit around and gossip during prep) Again, this is not ALL teachers but MOST.<br /><br />Pension: again, cry me a river. How many none union workers get a pension? Please raise your hands... (no hands raised). Now if you say form a union, then be prepared to pay $10 for a gallon of milk or $200 a night for a stay at the Holiday Inn (or any non 4 star hotel) Imagine if union workers built your phone or made your shoes and then triple the cost of those items (or more) and tell me unions and CB are good. Think about how affordable a good car would be if the unions hadn't bankrupted the car industry.<br /><br />So I don't feel for Teachers at all when now they are just paying like everyone else (and still get 3 months summer vacation)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-74793296910739988172012-01-16T23:14:09.093-06:002012-01-16T23:14:09.093-06:00Back in November, "Anonymous,"brought up...Back in November, "Anonymous,"brought up an interesting, but deceptive exercise in logic that he accuses Politifact of employing when criticising Governor Walker's deviations from the truth.<br /><br />He uses a hypothetical statement from the Governor to illustrate his point--"The sky is blue." He then picks it apart by making observations like, "The sky is not blue when it's dark out, or when there are clouds in the sky," and adds that, "since the sky is these colors more than blue," the statement by Walker can be considered as only barely true.<br /><br />Such a systematic dissection using reason would be absolutely appropriate if the Governor were exploring a scientific proposition but, unfortunately, it is usually politician who employ the use of spin by making such specific distinctions. If Politifact criticises these spins by questioning the context in which they are used,as well as questioning if are really true, it is effectively doing it's job. It is really "Anonymous," who uses picky observations to stretch the use of reason, and who is therefore, denying the truth with semantic arguments.<br /><br />Of course we are free to dispute the validity of Politifact's observations, but it is a matter of necessity for them to examine all of the subtle ways that various politicans employee spin. This is required because they have a responsibility to make thorough assesments about the actual, and implied meaning, of each political statements.<br /><br />It is really "anonymous," who is distorting the governor's positions by using an innapropriate process of elimination that is really more appropriate in determining scientific facts, not the ideological statements of politicians.<br /> <br /><br />251001251001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-60574713935393938322012-01-07T12:53:43.908-06:002012-01-07T12:53:43.908-06:00obackingLike any other working person I am surpris...obackingLike any other working person I am surprised to see some people defending this crook. I know why they do that, it's a family tradition of voting for a particular party regardless of how that will affect their own lives. I am a school tecaher and I do not have anything against the rich. however, I do not want to become a slave to the rich which is something all these reublican pricks are advocating for...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-60885806882714324052012-01-01T14:37:35.427-06:002012-01-01T14:37:35.427-06:00Also: Walker withheld his intentions, then describ...Also: Walker withheld his intentions, then described his plan as "dropping the bomb." <br /><br />We knew he was anti-union, but he did not say during the campaign that he intended to nearly eliminate collective bargaining, force unions to avoid annual re-certification elections, etc.James Rowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10203270946492159686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-16589253880372299862012-01-01T14:22:50.618-06:002012-01-01T14:22:50.618-06:00Reply to this anonymous: "Walker is doing exa...Reply to this anonymous: "Walker is doing exactly what he said he would do, balance the budget while not raising taxes. I know the extra $46.00 that teachers"...<br /><br />You need to check your facts. My wife is a teacher with 17 years service in the Green Bay system (24 overall), Masters degree in Educ., etc. Between the increase in health insurance and pension contributions, along with the small pay cut she was given, her income was reduced by just under $10,000 a year. That was a 20% cut in her paycheck. Her long-term disability coverage was dropped, her health coverage was reduced, and co-pays are going up starting in January 2012. How much of her paycheck those equal is yet to be determined, since we don't know how often she'll get sick, injured or what-have-you. Gather your fact before you spout off at the mouth, eh?Ted Bistrupnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-26218670953703535612011-12-31T11:03:31.523-06:002011-12-31T11:03:31.523-06:00The truth. The whole truth. Nothing but the truth....The truth. The whole truth. Nothing but the truth. <br /><br />Something we never get from Walker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-6394724972417254072011-12-28T15:12:00.473-06:002011-12-28T15:12:00.473-06:00I voted for him once, I'll vote for him again ...I voted for him once, I'll vote for him again if he gets recalledConor Mccartneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04534873934454530941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-91596299896950939252011-12-27T20:59:31.826-06:002011-12-27T20:59:31.826-06:00Seems to me that the Walker recall is a good thing...Seems to me that the Walker recall is a good thing for Wisconsin as it will bring in more money to Wisconsin than anthing else Walker has done.Lennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-87170094105001167172011-12-27T13:09:09.386-06:002011-12-27T13:09:09.386-06:00Let's not forget the "half truths" s...Let's not forget the "half truths" statements. Add that to the tally and your knocking on the total number!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-82438647305578392462011-12-26T10:39:23.654-06:002011-12-26T10:39:23.654-06:00Walker is nothing but a lying !@#$. All we heard w...Walker is nothing but a lying !@#$. All we heard was how much teachers were overpaid in milwaukee. Well what about the rest of the teachers in the state. The teachers up here where I live make about 43,00.00 a year if that. Not no 100,00.00 like he stated. What a pathetic excuse for a human being he is. Why is it he didnt take a paycut? Well lets see why, because he is a greedy ****. And has to pay back his crooked Koch (cock) brothers. Wheres all the jobs he has promised? Not many companies want to come to Wisconsin and start a bussiness because of all the bs he has started.Like many say his pink slip is not far away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-55717863308857148902011-12-23T20:10:46.960-06:002011-12-23T20:10:46.960-06:00He cut the pay of all public employees EXCEPT all ...He cut the pay of all public employees EXCEPT all of the elected, overpaid employees! Cut their pay too because their pay and benifits getting cut would save a whole lot more than cutting the union employees!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-25473705449539450102011-12-20T21:34:04.148-06:002011-12-20T21:34:04.148-06:00Walker is doing exactly what he said he would do, ...Walker is doing exactly what he said he would do, balance the budget while not raising taxes. I know the extra $46.00 that teachers have to pay to get better benefits than the rest of us hurts, but, recalling Walker to get some paid off politician to restore the public elite, and make us pay for it through higher taxes, and at the same time put our kids in debt, and our grandchildren, and their children, is not only irresponsible, it's criminal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-69111420698729091222011-12-19T16:10:22.660-06:002011-12-19T16:10:22.660-06:00If Scott Walker wanted to "SAVE MONEY" t...If Scott Walker wanted to "SAVE MONEY" then he could do his own lawn care and live in his own house! Wisconsin Taxpayers pay $250,000 a year for housekeeping and lawn mowing for the "Governors Mansion". Wisconsin is one of only 6, yes 6 of 50, states that even has a "Governors Mansion". If he wanted to cut the spending why doesn't he "Lead by Example"? Because he is a LIAR! Go check the facts, and anyone who IS NOT a millionaire would want to wring his neck and RECALL this Governor who is Under the Influence of Koch Money and an overall Lying S.O.B.Dave in Madisonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-34332535309204071452011-12-17T15:37:40.784-06:002011-12-17T15:37:40.784-06:00All of the "I talked about collective bargain...All of the "I talked about collective bargaining in the campaign before I did it" arguments I have seen quote small snippets and brochures (including a tea party one mentioning ONLY health care bargaining). He did not CAMPAIGN on that idea. Only those knowing him from his time in Milwaukee county would have known that plan. The rest of the state was clueless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-30923823790060358952011-12-16T10:29:29.500-06:002011-12-16T10:29:29.500-06:00Or - that $ 3600.00 SAVED thier jobs? Let alone th...Or - that $ 3600.00 SAVED thier jobs? Let alone they get that $ back in benifits.Baleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-83264992661377048112011-12-08T22:47:53.165-06:002011-12-08T22:47:53.165-06:00I have two daughters who work for the state. They...I have two daughters who work for the state. They are now bringing home $300 a month less than before Walker's Law was passed. So I guess it's costing them $3600 a year to have the "opportunity" to save $1000.Despairinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08314605938004367367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-70502108903926952392011-12-04T22:30:23.922-06:002011-12-04T22:30:23.922-06:00Yeah, why would we trust a site like Politifact? ...Yeah, why would we trust a site like Politifact? They must skew the information as they see fit. It's not like they take their work seriously or have won any awards....oh wait...is that a Pulitzer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-36427012252260995742011-12-03T23:00:56.110-06:002011-12-03T23:00:56.110-06:00I guess for some, if a claim is only partially fal...I guess for some, if a claim is only partially false, then it must mean it's true? Riddle me that one Batman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-88085252879826697802011-11-28T14:02:41.122-06:002011-11-28T14:02:41.122-06:00bibeefybottom: Oh, my...does it have to be clarif...bibeefybottom: Oh, my...does it have to be clarified yet again?<br /><br />Please do yourself a favor and go back to the ENTIRE taped Senate testimony of Walker...be sure it's not Kucinich's edited youtube video.<br /><br />Walker is asked if the requirement of re-certifying unions on an annual basis 'saves any money'. <br /><br />He tries to explain that it give the public employee the opportunity to save money, but Kucinich just can't bear to allow Walker to explain that.<br /><br />Walker then states "that particular part" (meaning the annual re-certification)"doesn't save any money."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-1336665108204998352011-11-27T05:19:44.491-06:002011-11-27T05:19:44.491-06:00Regardless whether he ran on this platform or not,...Regardless whether he ran on this platform or not, Walker admitted in Senate testimony that ending collective bargaining is NOT going to save any money. Why do it then? Because he had marching orders from ALEC. Is is just a coincidence that John Kasich pulled the same crap in Ohio?bibeefybottomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12706038425971614254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-16001008158017053312011-11-26T20:53:31.707-06:002011-11-26T20:53:31.707-06:00Walker to attend anti-recall rally in Eau Claire
...Walker to attend anti-recall rally in Eau Claire<br /><br />Read more: http://chippewa.com/news/local/article_e6b17f20-155c-11e1-a707-001cc4c002e0.html#ixzz1ergGf4l1<br /><br /><br />It is two blocks down from the Wisconsin Democratic Party recall center. <br /><br />How many pants on fire lies will be tell?morninmisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02148706206277602415noreply@blogger.com