tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post1034908619327306954..comments2023-10-08T04:12:46.273-05:00Comments on The Political Environment: Walker, Wisconsin's GOP, serving donors, escalate war on scienceJames Rowenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203270946492159686noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-10227626297639003792015-04-11T20:26:54.492-05:002015-04-11T20:26:54.492-05:00Anonymous @ 10:10's example of John Quincy Ada...Anonymous @ 10:10's example of John Quincy Adams is extremely practical and tactical: if the gag rule bans mention of "climate change", then — as point of procedure — <b><i>discuss the gag rule</i></b>... at length, inevitably involving what the gag rule was intended to prevent mentioning, and why. Fully expose the trick played in passing it.Ravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974090948640572660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-86141616168828309442015-04-09T13:35:09.002-05:002015-04-09T13:35:09.002-05:00Our north woods trees fly down Rt 51 all limbed an...Our north woods trees fly down Rt 51 all limbed and cut and stacked on the backs of a dozen trucks or more per day...This comment (made by a former fs employee in WI) on the federal web site requesting guidance on slowing climate change https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ceq/initiatives/resilience<br />-- comment #4 here: https://opendata.socrata.com/dataset/NEPA-Public-Comments/6peu-b86u <br />-- seemed to say political climate offered only three choices to federal foresters who want to make an actual difference in America's greenhouse gas emissions; i.e., "...permanent conversion of forests to non-forests,[or] proposals that promote or tend to increase the practice of motorized recreational activities, or [ones] that would increase fossil fuel use associated with transport of timber or processed forest products." Not much choice there. So, now, even that is taken away by banned language. The new political slogan here is not "name names, or else" (Senator Joe) but "why mar WI" doublespeak and the end plan is now in play...or else we humans take courage and protect the water, soil, wolves and our children's futures...vivaenvironoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-75282115147746144212015-04-09T10:30:05.617-05:002015-04-09T10:30:05.617-05:00The problem is, there are no alternatives in anoth...The problem is, there are no alternatives in another party.Dems have capitulated. Corruption is the norm in both parties. <br /><br />Fascist ALEC and his new little brother ACCE are well monied and taking aim at everything America has left. They are doing it state by state. Look at Kansas. <br /><br />This is not going to end pretty, if we don't stop the onslaught,now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-37444928351423988892015-04-09T10:10:18.626-05:002015-04-09T10:10:18.626-05:00150 years ago, former president, then congressman ...150 years ago, former president, then congressman John Quincy Adams tied up Congress in knots. There was a "gag rule" in place against discussing slavery on the floor, so he instead instigated hours upon hours of discussion of the gag rule itself, in which discussion of slavery, though banned, was inevitable. <br /><br />Time to write this board lots and lots of letters asking how they're going to discuss things like the changing condition and composition of Wisconsin's public forests without discussing global warming. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-68659198463385416722015-04-08T16:38:16.472-05:002015-04-08T16:38:16.472-05:00So, sticking your head in the sand makes climate c...So, sticking your head in the sand makes climate change go away. Too many have been doing that since the 1970's and had they acted then, we would not be in this situation now. What the H is wrong with people. You can't ignore climate change forever. If you do the human race will perish from the earth. Humans cannot live without food and water. At the rate climate is changing many will perish from lack of food and water. Not a pleasant way to go.my5centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00942220162477583126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-32539033170051215042015-04-08T14:17:20.374-05:002015-04-08T14:17:20.374-05:00Slightly off topic, but remember this story? http...Slightly off topic, but remember this story? http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/top-mining-company-official-was-in-line-for-dnr-post-records-confirm-b99475949z1-298827631.html<br /><br />Bob Seitz was being considered for the post of deputy secretary of the Department of Natural Resources but backed off because of a federal law barring conflicts of interest.<br /><br />Seitz ended up with an appointment with the PSC.<br /><br />Well guess what? Bob Seitz was the Executive Director and registered lobbyist for Wisconsin Utility Investors Inc.<br /><br />http://wuiinc.org/wp/?p=2458<br /><br />https://lobbying.wi.gov/Mobile/LobbyistInformation/2015REG/PrincipalsRepresented/7409<br /><br />Although the EPA law may or may not apply, it is still a major conflict of interest. This story needs more attention and some sun shined upon it.<br /><br />Don't let it fade away. Keep it in the spotlight.<br /><br />CJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04833070877059285634noreply@blogger.com