Format Produces Unsatisfying Senate Debate; Baldwin Wins On Points
I posted this over at Purple Wisconsin:
Suppose they gave a US Senate debate and the format was so stifling you wouldn't watch the next one?
That precisely describes last night's first-of-three televised debates
'joint appearances' with US Rep. Tammy Baldwin, (D), and former
Governor Tommy Thompson, (R) - - and, yes, I did my due diligence and
live-blogged it, here -
- but without cross-talking and immediate responses, or tough,
researched questions, The Friday night show was more a pair of
interviews that could have been conducted in separate studios.
So - - no surprise that there were no surprises - - or bombshells or
strong blows landed or revealing flubs or truly memorable lines - - so
I'm left with a few impressions.
* Tommy was the more animated of the candidates, but he spent way
too much time stating and repeating and repeating what he did when he
was Governor - - he left office in early 2001- - which was a long time
ago, and more importantly, in a far different era economically when a
rising tide temporarily lifted all boats - - along with the job creation
totals in Wisconsin he kept touting, too.
And while you might say, "well, that's just Tommy," he displayed an irritating grandiosity about things in the past that were clearly team efforts - - "I built Wisconsin...I built a hospital..."and so on.
* As for Baldwin: she answered questions more directly without
bombast or references to the past than did Tommy and struck me as more
current on issues.
She spoke passionately about the value of Social Security in the
context of its value to the grandparents who raised her, but on other
issues she was more cerebral and measured than emotional.
I don't know Baldwin well enough to know if that is simply who she
is, or if she needed to present herself to viewers who might have been
seeing her for the first time as cool, calm and collected to avoid the
trapping, no-win allegation of 'look at that emotional woman' that can bedevil strong female candidates.
US Sen. Claire McCaskill in Missouri is feeling some of that from her
male opponent, the disgraced Rep. Todd (Legitimate Rapes) Akin, and
Karl Rove's SuperPac has put up an ad playing on the same
double-standard in Wisconsin that shows Baldwin making a strong speech
and using the words "damn right!"
The Horror!
But after watching and blogging and thinking about it, I have to grade Tommy down.
He laughed inappropriately or smiled insincerely when Tammy was
speaking, or in response to her: I thought it was openly condescending.
Also condescending to viewers is the canard that he's just a Wisconsin
farmer who never left the state. Stop, please.
He also seemed to be on unsteady ground when talking about how "The
Army Corps of The [Sic] Engineers should go about keeping asian carp out
of the Great Lakes, and twice referred to Iranian president Ahmadinejad
as Ahmadinejohn. These things hit your ear, grate and raise questions. Does he know the facts, and why does he stumble over them?
And when discussing energy options, he repeated a conservative meme
about how oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge would have
as little impact on the environment there as putting a postage stamp on
a football field.
That's where he lost me, this new, less-substantial Tommy continually off too far to the Right.
The myth of environmentally-neutral drilling in ANWR is oil industry
propaganda. It principally focuses on the square footage taken up by
drilling pads and a few ancillary items, but not, for example, the
presence of machinery trucked in to set up well fields, and the
infrastructure like roads.
And it distracts from what it would take to get to and repair broken
pipes and clean up spills. Postage stamp on a football field? Don't
condescend us.
Baldwin talked about greener energy alternatives, so, again, I credit
her with having a greater command of of the issues, this being 2012.
So - - the winner is Tammy Baldwin, by a TKO, on points - - for the
uninitiated, that is is a boxing reference (a technical knock out,
rather than literally counted out "1...10") - - and I base my decision
on her preparation, level-headedness, grasp of contemporary matters and
more consistently looking forward, not backwards.
I think viewers saw her as a competent Senator-in-waiting.
Tommy - - well, he should stick to that private-sector consulting and
schmoozing.
He told us tonight that he does a lot of living in the
past.
Reminiscence doesn't lead.
And if the next two so-called debates are set up and managed like
this one - - and I mean this - - call them off and let the candidates go
meet some voters or raise some money so we and they can do something
more productive with the time.
4 comments:
Tommy Thompson clearly dominated the debate as I heard it on the radio and he sounded much more competent than Baldwin.
I had thought about not voting this election but after listening to the debate I now have a reason to vote for at least one candidate, and that would be for Tommy.
Tommy made me laugh out loud three times, each unintentionally at his expense. What an absurd figure!
I have never been a Tommy Thompson fan, and never will be. Especially empty were his criticisms of Tammy for being in Congress and doing nothing. He never could reply to her charge that he had supported putting the Bush tax cuts, two wars and Medicare Part D on a credit card, while she had voted against all three. So much for Tammy being a wild-spending "liberal."
And when Tommy claimed Tammy was too partisan to get things done, she effectively reminded everyone that Tommy himself had once signed into law a bill she had co-sponsored with Scott Walker. That was a good solid blow landed, I thought.
Hands down, Tammy beat Tommy. (And he knew it, hence his ridiculous carping about "all she does is complain.") Tommy could not even admit plainly that he will vote to do away with Obamacare! Tammy caught that and let everyone know about it, at the same time taking credit for her own role in advancing one provision of the law. I have always liked Tammy Baldwin.
Tommy, on the other hand, sounds like he belongs on FOX News or right wing radio. Not exactly the picture of an elder statesman, is he? I think he is pretty sad.
Tommy seemed more sure of himself than Tammy, and why not? For the most part, he spent the hour repeating well-rehearsed talking points that would have fit on a post card.
This format, which denied the candidates any opportunity to challenge what the other had said, was terrible. I'd rather see them required to answer four questions, spending ten minutes on each one.
Tommy Thompson - Boastful, egotistical, arrogant, overbearing person with a grandiosity complex. Floored me when he said, "I built Wisconsin."
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