tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post6201314475733994093..comments2023-10-08T04:12:46.273-05:00Comments on The Political Environment: How Wisconsin Sells Itself ShortJames Rowenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203270946492159686noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-63990954132150968152007-11-25T02:28:00.000-06:002007-11-25T02:28:00.000-06:00anon> The engineering school wants to be near hosp...anon> The engineering school wants to be near hospitals? I'd think an Engineering school would want to be near JCI and Rockwell. Further the "Research" park is really an office park as very little research is actually done there. <BR/><BR/>As far as the Park East TID the amount of land required to put UWM there would be significantly less than on the county grounds and it is not like they are getting that land for free either. Additionally as someone pointed out and dorm buildings would be taxable.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689928015042507584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-11489683890251161672007-11-21T12:26:00.000-06:002007-11-21T12:26:00.000-06:00Let's remember that the hospitals moved to Tosa wi...Let's remember that the hospitals moved to Tosa with government help and encouragement. <BR/><BR/>And that no one is addressing the related transportation, housing and other infrastructure issues - - many of which could have been easily addressed, say, in the Valley, which is also close to Marquette.James Rowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10203270946492159686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-6197887166111012562007-11-21T12:17:00.000-06:002007-11-21T12:17:00.000-06:00None of you are addressing the purpose, determined...None of you are addressing the purpose, determined by the engineering faculty, to be near the Medical College faculty and other researchers in Tosa -- nor are you addressing that means that it was not UWM but the hospitals that abandoned the city for Tosa decades ago.<BR/><BR/>If you have a plan for moving the Medical College, Froedtert Hospital, Children's Hospital, etc., to Park East -- which would remove all of that land from the city tax rolls -- let's hear it.<BR/><BR/>Don't understand why the engineering faculty wants to be near other researchers doing similar work? Read UWM's reports, after long and hard work by many there to make these decisions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-46122243186351449182007-11-20T15:18:00.000-06:002007-11-20T15:18:00.000-06:00JPK makes a valid point about the Park East. On th...JPK makes a valid point about the Park East. On the other hand, there is MSOE, with all its new infrastructure, right there.James Rowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10203270946492159686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-38372402671624920592007-11-20T14:21:00.000-06:002007-11-20T14:21:00.000-06:00Even as an urbanist, a UWM satellite campus in Tos...Even as an urbanist, a UWM satellite campus in Tosa vs Park East is a tough one. <BR/><BR/>Park East is a TID, so someone would have to figure out a way to repay the City bonds floated to create the TID. Can't the Park East attract better private development that would add to City coffers?<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, I hate to see greenspace sprawled over in the so-called "research park," which has no real R&D jobs anyway. Plus central city locations are ideal for students, who rely on transit and in turn add to he local economy. <BR/><BR/>The Tower site might be nice, as its just down the street from UWM, but I don't think UWM or Cudahy would go for it. <BR/><BR/>Combining the Engineering school with UWM's new School of Public Health might be the better option, as long as it doesn't eat up too much of the lucrative Park East land. Adding privately owned affordable housing for students would be key for a Park East UWM satellite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-8152093991907516612007-11-20T10:30:00.000-06:002007-11-20T10:30:00.000-06:00Amen to the PurpleAvenger comment. UWM's focus on ...Amen to the PurpleAvenger comment. <BR/><BR/>UWM's focus on the County Grounds reminds me of the long-ago fight in Madison when the technical college abandoned downtown Madison for open space at the edge of the airport.<BR/><BR/>Students downtown were incovenienced. All the bus routes which converged there could not be redirected to the edge of the city at the airport.<BR/><BR/>Downtown businesses took a hit, and sprawl was accelerated - - all by an arm of the government.<BR/><BR/>The tech board had a 'campus' vision that included big parking lots and low buildings, much like an office park.<BR/><BR/>It's not a 100% perfect comparison, but it's close. In the end, it was a loss for downtown Madison.<BR/><BR/>For downtown Milwaukee, or for its central city, it's a lost opportunity.James Rowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10203270946492159686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-54798225382985500442007-11-20T10:23:00.000-06:002007-11-20T10:23:00.000-06:00Another place that was once looked at for the engi...Another place that was once looked at for the engineering school (and then dropped for who knows what reason) is the Tower Site up near 35th & Capitol. Think of the amazing revitalization - and jobs - that could have been provided to a struggling, predominantly minority, neighborhood, to more directly benefit from the city's development.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-38090877322908035672007-11-19T16:03:00.000-06:002007-11-19T16:03:00.000-06:00No, the city doesn't need to make Park East land t...No, the city doesn't need to make Park East land tax-exempt (as is any UWM land).<BR/><BR/>The Tosa plan is beneficial to UWM and to the city. What both need is to grow R&D, and that requires the synergy of putting the "R"/research people with the "D"/development people at the County grounds.<BR/><BR/>The decision to move so many hospitals from downtown Milwaukee to Tosa was a wrong decision, decades ago, but UWM can't undo it. <BR/><BR/>It can go where the county moved the hospitals and make new businesses happen. And that will benefit the city -- as it has benefited Madison, the Twin Cities, and many more.<BR/><BR/>UWM's other satellite campus/school is planned for downtown, the public health school (if the Madison folks don't take back their promises yet again, and there are rumblings. . . .) -- and that will do much for the city as well. Focus on all of UWM's plans, not just one part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-12422084074457296942007-11-19T10:15:00.000-06:002007-11-19T10:15:00.000-06:00Right on Jim. I wish you were still working in Ci...Right on Jim. I wish you were still working in City government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-40584369903458023252007-11-18T13:17:00.000-06:002007-11-18T13:17:00.000-06:00The UW-Tosa plan must be stopped.. The Park East ...The UW-Tosa plan must be stopped.. The Park East would be such a better location that would be beneficial for both UWM and the city,.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689928015042507584noreply@blogger.com