tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post1290319721099521547..comments2023-10-08T04:12:46.273-05:00Comments on The Political Environment: WisDOT's Fantasies Will Take Their TollJames Rowenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10203270946492159686noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-73372997771241979542008-10-24T09:23:00.000-05:002008-10-24T09:23:00.000-05:00Given the state of the economy, expeditures of thi...Given the state of the economy, expeditures of this magnitude certainly need to be scrutinized.<BR/> <BR/>Jim, it's interesting that you point out that gas tax collections are not a good funding source because of the decline in miles traveled. By simply employing Doyle logic, then all Wisconsin needs to do is increase the gas tax, and then tack on an additional percentage that is at least equal to the percent decline in miles driven. Then, keep increasing the tax as miles driven decreases.<BR/> <BR/>You also imply that perhaps additional taxes in the form of tolls are too much to add to our current local, state, and federal tax burden. If we are already taxed heavily, then how can a tax increase be chastized in one breath (road expenditures), and advocated in another (bus and trains), particularly when the chastized option actually benefits more people? <BR/> <BR/>Consider that....<BR/> <BR/>Light rail costs $50-75 million per mile (the $91 million of Federal funds tied up by Scott Walker would pay for 1.5 miles of track). <BR/> <BR/>Ridership , on average, only covers about 20% of operations expenses. The remainder would be covered at taxpayer expense year after year after year. <BR/> <BR/>Now, how many <B>vehicles</B> would benefit from proposed road improvements? Consider the average daily usage of (a) I-94 from Milwaukee to Kenosha - 110,000 vehicles; (b) I-894, i.e. Zoo Exchange - 132,500 vehicles; and (c) I-39/90 from Beloit to Madison - 37,000 vehicles? Multiply those numbers by average vehicle occupancy, and also consider that road improvements contribute to business commerce. <BR/> <BR/>Light rail simply isn't cost effective.<BR/> <BR/>In the current state of our economy, WisDOT must be prudent in it's use and collection of funds. A balance between road and bus mass transit must be considered. Light rail simply isn't cost effective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-42188250514066642052008-10-23T21:58:00.000-05:002008-10-23T21:58:00.000-05:00Why doesn't the state simply implement another gas...Why doesn't the state simply implement another gas tax increase? Doyle and company seem to favor taxing anything that moves instead of curbing spending. I'm surprised there isn't a shoe tax to help pay for all the sidewalk reconstruction in downtown Milwaukee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-64561400618646099552008-10-22T09:09:00.000-05:002008-10-22T09:09:00.000-05:00The state legislature needs more cash to give to t...The state legislature needs more cash to give to the road builders who fund their campaigns, and this is just one more way to tap the middle class.<BR/><BR/>Get used to it. Or change it. Get the money out of the political system and these guys will start voting for their people instead of their pocketbooks.<BR/><BR/>Jack Lohman<BR/>http://MoneyedPoliticians.netJack Lohmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10214373845549362680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-38176608411342242972008-10-22T00:03:00.000-05:002008-10-22T00:03:00.000-05:00I don't believe that tolls will replace all public...I don't believe that tolls will replace all public funding for Wisconsin highways, or really support transit. I believe that tolls would make highways something of a class-based option, too.<BR/><BR/>Some toll roads are really expensive to use, so lower-income people will be relegated to the back roads.James Rowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10203270946492159686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6621691715090523319.post-68357996720574290442008-10-21T23:56:00.000-05:002008-10-21T23:56:00.000-05:00Jim,I don't understand why every Wisconsinite shou...Jim,<BR/><BR/>I don't understand why every Wisconsinite should have to pay for the highways via our property taxes to begin with. Implementing tolls at our highways should be able to eliminate this tax on our homes and businesses.<BR/><BR/>I'd be more than happy to raise my hand in support of tolls if it means our homes and businesses don't get directly taxed for our highways on our property taxes. I don't think it's fair for people who NEVER use the highways, such as the elderly, to be paying for them.<BR/><BR/>If anything is to be learned from Illinois, it's that so much money is made from the TriState Tollway that they don't know what to do with it. If I'm not mistaken, Jim, Illinois residents do NOT pay for any highways that are tollways on their property taxes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15850379746107272818noreply@blogger.com